25 in 5:

Apr 15, 2008 04:30 AM
Laurie Monsebraaten
Staff Reporter

Ontario can't say it will cut poverty by 25 per cent in five years
until it has defined the problem, says the chair of a cabinet
committee drafting the Liberals' promised anti-poverty strategy.

"I'm happy to have an ambitious goal on a significant reduction in
poverty," Children and Youth Minister Deb Matthews told reporters
after attending a forum of about 500 anti-poverty activists at Queen's
Park yesterday.

"But 25 per cent of what?" she asked. "How are we going to measure our
progress? How are we going to measure poverty? This is one of our big
challenges."

The activists, part of a growing coalition with members as varied as
the City of Toronto, teachers' federations, Ryerson University, health-
care and immigrant groups, want the Liberals to follow countries such
as the U.K. that have reduced poverty by almost 25 per cent in the
past five years. They call themselves the 25-in-5 Network for Poverty
Reduction.

Canada doesn't have an official poverty line, Matthews said. However,
the number most often cited is Statistics Canada's low-income cut-off,
which for a single person in Toronto in 2006 was $17,570 after taxes.
For a family of four it was $33,221. (The before-tax amounts were
$21,202 for a single person and $39,399 for a family of four.)

But income alone doesn't tell the whole story, Matthews said.

For example, many children in low-income households struggle in school
and never reach their potential, she said. "How do we get at measuring
that kind of progress?" she asked. "It's way more than just an income
measure."

Matthews said the government is considering several different
indicators to measure the complexity of poverty and is looking at what
other countries use.

She said she will be seeking public input when formal consultations on
the plan begin later this spring.

"We were elected on a number of planks in our platform. One was not to
raise taxes. And one was not to run a deficit. So we have to live
within that reality," Matthews told reporters. "But I'm very, very
confident we're going to be able to do a lot of very good things
within that reality," she said.

"I can assure you we are very, very serious about developing a
comprehensive poverty reduction strategy," Matthews said. "We can't
afford poverty. It's in our economic best interests to really address
poverty."

The gathering, which included about 50 people living in poverty, urged
Matthews and her government to make bold changes to improve the lives
of some 1.3 million Ontarians living below Statistics Canada's low-
income cut-offs.

One of those was Michael Creek, a 50-year-old former Toronto business
manager whose battle with cancer in 1993 left him unable to work. But
it wasn't the cancer or mental illness that broke his spirit, he told
the forum. It was poverty.

Unable to afford TTC fare for anything but doctors' appointments or
shopping, Creek became increasingly lonely and isolated.

"The last time I went to a movie theatre was to see The Lion King," he
said. "This is how I started to disappear as a person."

Matthews, who seemed moved by the stories of Creek and others who
spoke, said one of the government's goals is to change the way it
provides services and income support to ensure people are helped and
not further marginalized.

"We need to turn government on its ear. We need to develop person-
centred strategies ... build on the strengths of people, not on their
pathologies," she said.

Although the group is excited by the Liberals' commitment to tackling
poverty with a comprehensive, long-term strategy by year's end,
members realize there is still an appetite in Ontario for tax cuts and
less government.

"There are many who adhere to the view that if you're poor it's your
own fault and, as a result, government has no business, no legitimate
role to play ameliorating, reducing or eradicating poverty," said Nick
Saul of the Stop Community Food Centre. And there are many competing
interests at the cabinet table, he told the group.

But the 25-in-5 network hopes the province will run with its demands
to "poverty proof" the minimum wage; enhance social benefits for
children and those unable to work; and beef up supports such as child
care and affordable housing.